One of the OTHER weird things #dnd does is make people think every thing dnd does poorly is inherently bad. Like making lots of rolls is fine. Failure is fine. Random chargen is fine. Levels and classes can be interesting. But people dislike them because of association.
Of course I did once have a conversation with a guy who said “all random chargen is bad” and when I gave him counter examples he said “those things aren’t random chargen because I use the phrase to mean “how random chargen is in dnd”” We aren’t speaking the same language!
@tinstargames at the turn of the millennium I was on a #VillainsAndVigilantes message board touting how #VnV 2e’s random power tables were perfectly balanced to spark ideas for characters. An new poster informed me that any use of randomness was actively abusing my players and I was a horrible person.
3-4 of my players were also regulars on the board who responded “what the hell are you talking about?!”
“I didn’t mean Brian specifically. Just people like him.”
Great save, chum
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@SubplotKudzu hooboy yeah I know that type
@tinstargames doubly weird as a) #VnV has rules for “if you have an idea just make that Pc” and b “feel free to modify anything you do roll.”
Another dude insisted that you could write up the character you wanted BUT the moment you rolled any dice you were 100% committed to full randomness, powers exactly as written in book. in one PBEM he submitted a PC where he had selected “Mutant Power” (a catch all for ‘power not in rulebook’) 6 times… to duplicate powers already in the rules