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Seems like the perception is that Mastodon is an inferior platform for creatives because it's less powerful as a promotional tool. But that risks reducing creative work to its commercial function. In many ways, Mastodon is better for discussing creative work.

You could think of Twitter as a kind of convention atmosphere. It's useful for putting your work in front of enthusiasts, for networking, for building a professional profile, but the same qualities that facilitate all that also make it hostile toward actually doing creative work.

@SymbolicCity might as well say “LinkedIn but with porn”

@SymbolicCity I don't think microblogging is actually ever *that* good for creative discussions - but I actually don't think masto is less powerful as a promotional tool for lots of creatives, possibly excepting visual art where Twitter has a lot of power. Its maximum upside for followers is lower than twitter, but the non-algorithmic timelines are on average better for most creators most of the time: I tend to get more interaction on here despite fewer followers.

@JubalBarca @SymbolicCity if you don't mind me jumping on - i see much /higher quality/ and consistent interaction. which i think is way more meaningful - people who are invested emotionally are also way more likely to be willing to actually buy your stuff, if you're selling. i think it's better - but if it's a numbers game to you you'll never be happy on anything except the dominant platform, for pure quantity of eyeballs reasons.

@h @JubalBarca Agreed. And there are case-by-case considerations. When you're selling tabletop RPGs, for example, you're mostly selling to GMs, not players. And maybe it's easier to get GMs to migrate. So it's plausible that the market could shift here. Or you could concentrate on prominent bloggers and podcasters who are here, and hope word about your game filters out through them.

@SymbolicCity @h I think another massive thing is that almost all major social media massively downgrades visibility for posts with links in: Mastodon doesn't do it algorithmically so it doesn't do that and still treats itself like it's part of a wider internet, so pointing people to your websites and blogposts is made much easier by that.

@JubalBarca @h I see that claim a lot, but I don't know where it comes from. Is there some documentation showing that Twitter et al automatically downlist posts with links?

@SymbolicCity @JubalBarca @h Each of the major social media platforms keep their algorithms secret and constantly update them. They also apply have different impacts on different accounts, so outside study is very difficult.

General consensus seems to be that posts with links to outside pages, especially commerce sites, get reduced reach (in part to encourage users to pay to promote such posts).

@JohnWSheldon @SymbolicCity @h Yes, I'm mostly mentioning this just from testing and experience: the mechanics aren't published but I've had extensive enough experience of seeing that effect on FB and Twitter that I'd treat it as a rule of thumb on both even if it wasn't otherwise common recieved wisdom.

@SymbolicCity Thinking about it in a purely commercial way (ew sorry ew), I've had more sales, views and people replying here than on twitter cos idk, people look at you more human. I don't get views or comments on twitter, it's hard to be seen. Masto feels more human and organic

@SymbolicCity Because Mastodon has copied twitters format I think it is also a poor format for discussion. This conversation will end up a weird disparate thread, rather than grouped nicely as comments on a post, for example. Not that these solutions haven’t gotten better at displaying that sort of conversation.

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