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Doyce

Or water fountains, public washrooms, outdoors tables...

@doyce Hard not to notice, given that sitting on the ground/floor and getting up from such are struggles for me...

@doyce @necrosis Ich fürchte, dass es an Stellen wie zB bei Flughäfen an einer Fehlplanung liegt. So wie auch das Verhältnis Damen- zu Herrentoiletten oft nicht dem realen Nutzungsbedürfnis entspricht.
An anderen Orten will man sicher auch Menschengruppen fernhaften.
Beides traurig.

@doyce Si, xa escribín algo sobre iso hai tempo...

@doyce it's NOT the government! It's the cities! They decide and take action.

Furthermore the root cause is society with its values and views. How do we react to poverty? Kindness, empathy? Or rather disgust or blaming them for not working hard enough?

It's just another facet of capitalism...

@doyce good we are not hit with gentrification meaning having lots of old people that need to sit often...

@doyce true, there used to be tapwater in many places, also free public toillets, heated waiting areas, and what I miss the most: less stress, less crowds, less advertisments, all in all more quiet and peacfull

@Doyce mentioned this to my wife and she points out "or the seating is clustered at a place where there are events and are heavily surveilled" Montreal has a lot of stuff, and it's getting better, but a lot of it is clustered on commercial places where people can still watch the "undesirables"

@doyce I do understand the point, but underneath is the unrelenting profit motive. If you want to sit down, you’ll need to pay. Coffee shop, bar, restaurant,… Public seating is “free” seating, and that competes with the capitalist raison d'être. And the vagrant/loitering laws protect the same businesses? Weird that citizens suffer from the laws made by a government representing the people, but business benefits. Weird (corrupt).

@doyce@dice.camp not to forget, shade, trees need to be small and super spaced out to minimise the shade they provide

@doyce it made my poor elderly mom kind of housebound because if she went out there was no place to sit and rest. I really wanted to get her one of those walkers with the seats, but I wasn’t sure how to navigate that with Medicaid and I am too poor to shell out money for durable medical equipment like that.

@Doyce "Let's make any urban public space unlivable.", the successful response to homelessness equivalent to the War on Drugs successful response to drug addictions.

@doyce While governments at various levels have enacted the policies, the interests they are serving are corporate & plutocratic. Because if you eliminate public spaces that facilitate human interactions without a corporation profiting, then you need to pay to socialise, and that helps corporations' bottom line.

@Doyce and then they complain about people sitting at home and not doing any activity, yeah...

@Doyce or how about those high pitched tone generators meant to shoo off teenagers from public spaces, but i, a 26-year old adult (non-practicing), can hear them just fine

tokyo absolutely loves them, i found out

@doyce As a chronic fatigue wolf,

YEAH.

We need those seats.

@doyce It's almost as if undesirable people are people, and we are people and helping people is undesirable?

@Doyce

While I was dealing with plantar fasciitis, you bet I sure noticed!

@Doyce
How to be a real groundbreaking government:
- Make your cities comfortable and welcoming.
- Target your efforts on providing help for people who need it.
- show in acts that you believe in your youth and you take care of your elders.

@doyce Helping homeless people may be difficult and, worst of all, cost money. However, it is astounding that public policy seems to be based on the notion that if we make their lives even more miserable, they will somehow disappear into thin air.

@andreaslindholm @doyce It is generally cheaper than doing all this. But maybe the only country that understands that is (I think) Finland...