@dgar Love the variety of synonyms for "died"

Lessons to be learned -
• Boycott #proprietary software - use #FreedomRespecting software (a.k.a. #Libre / #OpenSource / #FreeSoftware) which is free of corporate control, and
• Boycott #centralized services - use #federated services so you aren't locked into one service.

#XMPP is still around, and thriving.
https://contrapunctus.codeberg.page/the-quick-and-easy-guide-to-xmpp.html

@debby #Mumble, #IRC, #XMPP (+OMEMO = @gajim / #monoclesChat) & #Linphone (#SIP / #VoIP) are the better options. #NextcloudTalk also exist and @monocles as well as @Stuxhost offer that.

• #Signal and #Session are #proprietary, #centralized, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider solutions!

• And #Matrix is just a shittier #XMPP+#OMEMO. Give @delta / #DeltaChat a try instead.

OfC #JitsiMeet and #WebCall are also great!

https://webcall.timur.mobi

@signalapp As a supporter of #Signal, it is important to point out a key detail: Signal's own code is #OpenSource, but Signal uses multiple #proprietary libraries from #Google. Those cannot be scrutinized since the source code is not open. We believe Signal should offer an actual open source version, and are ready to help. This exists already in the fork https://fosstodon.org/@MollyIM Also, apps like #Element #Threema #Wire are #FOSS, and have #ReproducibleBuilds on @fdroidorg #FDroid

…while many of the #NLRB's records are eventually made public, the NxGen case management system hosts #proprietary #data from #corporate competitors, personal information about #union members or employees voting to join a union, & #witness testimony in ongoing cases. Access to that data is protected by numerous federal #laws, including the #Privacy Act.

@ozone89 @foone oftentimes companies just come up with #proprietary connectors to shaft their clients, like #PoweredUSB doing 12V & 24V...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PoweredUSB

@thelinuxexperiment 19:00 about that developers or publishers could just #opensource ancient games for the community, they dont usually tend to do that because of other #proprietary libraries, and stuff that they used to make the #game

Sure, they could just run through the source code - if it even still exists - and remove not theirs stuff, but that would require knowledge of all not theirs proprietary elements, or ability to start their old developement environments or other game engines, that are the only sensible way of accessing scripts/logic stored in obscure binary formats.

But yes, they should at least try to check if the source code is still on theirs discs, ask their lawyers if they can do that, and what has to be stripped, and maybe hire one intern to do all that work, to get hang of using computer, and tools they have used.

@simendsjo @jackdaniel #XMPP has all those features, and there's a fairly big #Lisp / #Scheme / #CommonLisp channel there - https://xmpp.link/#lisp@conference.a3.pm?join

It might not have everything that #Discord does, but it's vastly better than #IRC. And there's a cost to using #proprietary and #centralized services, which people constantly forget about in chasing convenience and shiny features.

Here's a guide to help you get started.
https://contrapunctus.codeberg.page/the-quick-and-easy-guide-to-xmpp.html

Remember - the rest of the #OpenStreetMap #FreeSoftware ecosystem is still on #GitHub. The OSM website, the iD editor, @osmandapp, @vespucci_editor, @everydoor, @osmapp...despite offers to help with the move.

I know the devs to be otherwise very friendly and supportive people, but on this issue we are at an impasse.

Why do they wait to be abused by #proprietary platforms when they could avoid the whole problem from the start?

@signalapp It's not #disinfo when one points out that you demand #PII aka. #PhoneNumbers from Users and that is literally a architectural vulnerability, alongside your #proprietary & #Centralized #Infrastructure.

• #Signal being a #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider #Solution is literally the reason why I consider it #insecure.

Not to mention the lack of @torproject / #Tor support with an #OnionService or the willingness to fulfill #cyberfacist "Embargoes" or shilling a #Shitcoin #Scam named #MobileCoin!

• #KYC is the illicit activity!!!

And don't get me started on the #cyberfacism that is #CloudAct.

• If you were secure, criminals would've used your platform so hard, it would've been shutdown like #EncroChat and #SkyECC.

I may nit have allvthe.evidence yet, but #Signal stenches like #ANØM: #Honeypot-esque!

@ueeu I think crucial parts is looking at it's components, dependencies, size and for apps permissions.

• Also make shure it uses #OpenStandards, because #OpenSource can be just a "smoke grenade" when it's a #centralized, #proprietary, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider solution.

#ReproduceableBuilds for example are important, so the actually released source code is what people actually get served as basis.

• Both of the latter points are something that @monocles / #monoclesChat does perfectly and that @signalapp completely fails at!

Plus in terms of #security, choose *real #E2EE with #SelfCustody of all the #Keys!

@fj I still think @signalapp has fundamental flaws like demanding #PII (#PhoneNumbers can't be obtained anonymously around the globe and are trivial to track down to devices and thus users), being subject to #CloudAct as an unnecessary & 100% avoidable risk as well as #Shitcoin-#Scam shilling (#MobileCoin) and it's #proprietary, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider nature that makes it inferior to real #E2EE with #SelfCustody like #PGP/MIME & #XMPP+#OMEMO!

Good luck @weblate ... While @nextcloud talks about FOSS and decentralization, people have been asking them for years about using #Peertube and #Weblate, but it's always crickets and continued exclusive use of #YouTube and #Transifex.

There's virtually never even a response why they exclusively use the closed, #centralized, #proprietary services.

I respect @Karlitschek and @jospoortvliet but the org seems only interested in #FOSS / #Privacy / #decentralization in their own code / marketing.

@colinstu except #discord is worse than #IRC in every possible way...

• Simply because it's a shitty #SaaS that is #proprietary, #centralized & #SingleVendor / #SingleProvider!

At least IRC allows for #SelfHosting and way more granular control...