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@heiseonlineenglish OH GOD PLEASE NO, NO, NOOOOOOO!
#Slack is just tue corporate version of #discord: An #InformationBlackhole for no good reason whatsoever…
#informationblackhole
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@GabeMoralesVR Personally, I think using #discord should disqualify one for work in #IT just like a recent conviction for #DUI disqualifies one for driving a school bus.
- And that's not even accounting for it being #Bloatware that is #Enshittified but being an #InformationBlackhole.
Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)And yes, whoever uses #discord for #documentation and #versioning instead of a goddam #git [doesn't have to be @github@infosec.exchange / #GitHub or @gitlab@mastodon.social / #GitLab or @Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de / #Codeberg or even @gitea@social.gitea.io / #Gitea - just use any `git` and write down your documentation in a useable format like #Markdown or goddamn ASCII plain text *FFS*] should be banned for life from #coding, working in #IT or contribute to #FLOSS.
- Because it's *literally worse* than people shitting *"#Ai" #Slop* all over the place cuz that can be *fixed* faster and easier by *backrolling said commits* and *banning the offender*!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ehLMlVTRJM&t=992
#AIslop #Enshittification
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@solarisfire how about.stop using #discord since it's not only an #InformationBlackhole but demanding #PII is the #IllicitActivity!
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@beka_valentine I can't stand #discord at all!
- Simply because it's an #InformationBlackhole of the worst kind...
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@BrodieOnLinux @qdot I find it weird to see #FLOSS #devs use an #InformationBlackhole like #discord which combines all the disadvantages of #MailingList, #IRC, #XMPP, #Matrix and even #MicrosoftTeams and #Signal without any redeeming qualities of any of those, like a functioning search & logging.
- Like the #LKML is kinda shit in terms of UX but at least there are searchable indexes for it so one can just point at a specific message & comment wthout having to be granted access to it.
Not to mention that discord is #ableist af by literally preventing the use of #Screenreader-friendly browsers such as #Lynx and #dillo to work, blocking @torproject / #Tor users and explicitly banning the use of it's #API to build better clients.
- Not even a #paid-for exception is offered, thus making integration into even paid-for tools like #HootSuite not legally possible!
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@xgranade I guess it's merely to feed these #InformationBlackhole|s ...
- Same reason why #TechIlliterates use #discord over #IRC...
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@kuketzblog da widerspreche ich vehement.
Es gibt #proprietär|e #Silos welche qua #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider-Aufbau als #InformationBlackhole agieren (u.a. #WhatsApp, #Signal, #Threema, #Session, #Telegram, #discord, …)
und es gibt #OffeneStandards die #Wahlfreiheit zwischen #Clients, #Plattformen, #Servern und #Providern ermöglichen (u.a. #IRC, #Zulip, #RocketChat, ...) und echte #E2EE mit #SelfCustody aller Schlüssel ermöglichen (u.a. #XMPP+#OMEMO & #PGP/MIME)...
Natürlich steht es Menschen frei irgendeinen großen, zentralisierten Anbieter zu nutzen, nur wird dieser am ehesten zur #Enshittification neigen und mit #PII wie #Telefonnummern entsprechende Begierlichkeiten wecken!
#discord IS LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!
It's worse than any #IRC, #Mumble or even the old #TeamSpeak & #Skype for that matter.
It combines the disadvantages of #Forum, #paywalled #documentation, #chat and #voicechat with 0 redeeming qualities (unlike #Zulip & Mumble & #XMPP+#OMEMO) it's just an #InformationBlackhole!
I'm shure fecking #dread has better moderation and I'd rather use #MicrosoftTeams + #Slack cuz those at least have proper #moderation tools.
Case in point: I'd rather #SelfHost all my comms infrastructure than to ever use something like Discord or any other #GDPR-violating SaaS that is just enshittification.
I'd rather recommend people to instead choose a tool that does everything but horrible to go with multiple smaller & good tools
- Public Chat? IRC!
- Group Voicechat? Mumble.
- #Documentation? #mkDocs-material.
- 1:1 Chats? XMPP+OMEMO.
- E2EE Group Chats? #deltaChat.
- E2EE Calls? #WebCall.
- Filehosting? #IPFS, #BitTorrent, oshi.at, etc. ...
- …
Check @alternativeto and @european_alternatives for options.
@mattly all of the aformentioned media are inherently ableist and #Discord is an #InformationBlackhole with unacceotable #ToS!
- Whereas written #documentation is trivially transferable.and translateable: #TextToSpeech works for over a quarter century fine...
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@drewdevault Using #Discord for any serious communication should disqalify the projects and those using it from being taken serious in #FLOSS development at all.
- Discord is an #InformationBlackhole with unacceptable #ToS and no good way to export and search anything from it.
At least with #Mailinglists and #IRC we had the latter problem solved, and whilst a lot of people criticize #GitHub for all the valid reasons, one does not need to have a GitHub account to merely read issues and access documentation published there.
- Also it's easier to setup a #Webpage with #mkDocs that provides a #searchable #documentation with #GithubPages and a custom #Domain than to even bother trying to customize some #Bot for Discord...
Not to mention Discord has a shitload ob absurd and archaic limitations that have no reason to exist, so even if one were okay with using that garbage #SaaS they'd inevitably run into the limit of "#Servers" [or rather #Instances] they can actually access at the same time VERY QUICKLY...
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@Jain @icedquinn agreed...
Tho if they basically said "Feel free to do what you want with it" somewhere archived (like on the #WayBackMachine) that would be good.
#Discord sadly is an #InformationBlackhole and worse than #IRC, #MailingLists, #Slack and #MicrosoftTeams combined...
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@anneroth ja, #Enshittification oder genauer #Slackification & #Discrodification, weil #Slack &
#Discord diese #Undurchsuchbarkeit als informationelles "#SchwarzesLoch" aka. #InformationBlackHole pioniert haben...
Deshalb nutze ich die auch nicht...
https://zulip.com/why-zulip/
ZulipWhy Zulip? Efficient communication with organized team chat.Make better decisions, faster with chat that’s
organized right. Follow the discussions that matter to you, easily and
efficiently, in real time or asynchronously.
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@masukomi +9001%
People should learn to use #markdown or be haunted by the Ghost of #AaronSwartz until they do!
#Discord is irredeemabky bad and a literal #InformationBlackhole because unlike any #Forum, #IRC or #Mailinglist (which are also bad because #git and #svn and other #VersionControl systems exist) content can't be #archived nor #migrated out of it...
Also #loginwalling #documentation is generally an asshole-move, espechally on #FLOSS where ome can't reasonably claim "(3rd party) IP has to be protected" or some other shite...