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Jupiter Rowland
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I mean, the Fediverse already has Lemmy, KBin, and MBin.

So there's already an ecosystem of pre-built communities out there.

/kbin is dead. Has been since last year. The last instances that haven't moved to Mbin are withering away.

However, in the "Lemmy clone" category, there's also PieFed, and Sublinks is still in development.

Also, the Facebook alternative Friendica ("Facebook alternative" not as in "Facebook clone", but as in "better than Facebook") has had groups since its launch in, 2010, five and a half years before Mastodon. Hubzilla has had groups since 2012 when it still was a Friendica fork named Red. (streams) (2021) and Forte (2024) have groups, too. All four are part of the same software family, created by the same developer. And interacting with their groups from Mastodon is somewhat smoother than interacting with a Lemmy community.

On Friendica, a group is simply another user account, but with different settings: In "Mastodon speak", it automatically boosts any DM sent to it to all its followers. In reality, it's a little more complicated because, unlike Mastodon, Friendica has a concept of threaded conversations. (No, seriously, Mastodon doesn't have it. If you think Mastodon has it, use Friendica for a year or two as your only daily driver, and then think again.)

Likewise, on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte, it's another channel with similar settings.

CC: @myrmepropagandist @Jasper Bienvenido @sebastian büttrich @Asbestos

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #FediverseGroups #Groups #PieFed #Sublinks #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte
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julian

tl;dr — how do PieFed/Lemmy/Mbin handle cross-posting?

Currently, when a NodeBB admin moves a topic from the uncategorized pseudo-category into a local category, we federate out an as:Announce, people typically think of that as a "boost" or "share".

That worked fine when the entirety of the category list was your local categories plus the "uncategorized" pseudo-category. However, now that NodeBB is moving towards supporting remote categories (via group actors), this UX makes less sense. We wouldn't want to "move" a topic out of the category it is supposed to be in, just for visibility to other local users. Additionally, topic moving was limited to administrators, and from the get-go we knew it would eventually cause issues because people other than admins would want to share topics to other local users.

This is where the "cross-post" functionality comes in, which is entirely new to NodeBB. I don't think this is new to other AP-enabled threaded discussion software. The idea would be that if a new topic comes in, whether it's uncategorized or not, any user could "cross-post" that topic to a local category, where it would be visible to other users on that instance. On the ActivityPub side, we would then federate out an as:Announce as we already do.

Is this what PieFed/Lemmy/Mbin already do, if they support cross-posting? What other alternative solutions would there be to this problem?

cc @rimu@mastodon.nzoss.nz @andrew_s@piefed.social @nutomic@lemmy.ml @bentigorlich@wehavecookies.social

#threadiverse#piefed#lemmy
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Rimu

What do you notice about the comments on this post?

piefed.social/post/555259

The post was made in the news@lemmy.world #Lemmy community and other posts linking to the same news article were made in technology@lemmy.world and in askusa@discuss.online. 3 different posts in 3 different communities.

#PieFed de-duplicates them and only shows the post once in your timeline and when viewing the post all the comments on those 3 posts are shown in the same list.

Fedi fragmentation = solved

piefed.socialUS appeals court rejects copyrights for AI-generated art lacking 'human' creatorI’ll take whatever good news we can get.
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julian

Hi @andrew_s@piefed.social/@freamon and @nutomic@lemmy.ml —I'm working (not-so-secretly) on refactoring NodeBB so that it is able to "browse" remote audiences/group actors, and that would include things like PieFed and Lemmy communities.

N.B. Given varied nomenclature (group/category/community/subforum), the ForumWG calls this structure an "audience".

Where I am at now is working through the logic for slotting an object into a category.

The most obvious choice here would be to look at as:audience. It's even specified in 1b12, and the majority of threaded implementations follow 1b12.

I am making this post because nutomic explicitly removed the audience from being served in Lemmy (as of January this year), so I don't think relying on that property would be wise.

I asked in that issue whether Lemmy finds community via to/cc (it does). Does PieFed do the same?

Would this also open up the possibility of a topic/context being part of multiple audiences/communities? Interesting...

NodeBB Communityfreamon
#activitypub#audience#1b12
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Jerry on Mastodon

#Piefed (#Reddit alternative), and #Lemmy and #MBIN alternative too, has added a nice new feature called "Feeds" which is like multi-reddit. You can create your own public feeds by combining a number of communities together. People on any other Piefed instance can subscribe to your feed.

If you're interested in using Piefed as a Reddit alternative, or checking out this feature, I run a public instance, feddit.online. You can see all Piefed server choices at join.piefed.social/try/

piefed.social/post/500805

feddit.onlineFeddit.online - Explore Anything, Discuss EverythingThis is a public PieFed instance. We are administrated in the Boston, MA, area but open to everybody in the galaxy.<br>Prohibited behavior:</strong…
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Rimu

#PieFed just added a multi-reddit feature, which we're calling "Feeds". It combines multiple Communities (actors of type "Group" in ActivityPub) into one.

Feeds can be followed from other PieFed instances, which will subscribe the follower to all the communities in the feed.

Try it out at piefed.social/feeds

It's similar to PieFed's concept of a Topic piefed.social/topics, except topics are maintained by the instance admins. Feeds are crowdsourced and federated topics.

piefed.socialPieFed
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David B. Himself

One thing that prevented me from jumping on the Lemmy bandwagon was the UI that I found underwhelming and a bit unpractical (and I'm someone who prefers the "old Reddit" UI and who doesn't mind the vanilla Mastodon).

That was until I discovered Piefed! Very similary to Lemmy (I assume it's a fork) but with a much nicer UI. It also has a great onboarding except for the part where it automatically signed me up to too many topics.

(thanks @atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org for putting it on my radar)

#Reddit #Lemmy #Piefed #Fediverse

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Chris Trottier

Everything on this #Piefed community does not originate from Piefed:

https://piefed.social/c/lumoura

It originates from #Akkoma or #Pixelfed. Specifically, I’m sending posts that originate from @atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org and @atomicpoet@pixelfed.social to @lumoura@piefed.social.

Now why would I do this? Because I want to:

  1. create photo streams around a unique aesthetic
  2. de-couple certain content away from my personal accounts
  3. allow people to experience that content through different social media lenses

Yes, I believe this is a very big deal—which is why I talk so much about it.

piefed.socialLumouraAn arts and culture aesthetic that has a certain unexplainable mood.
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Chris Trottier
Group actors are essential to the Fediverse.

They’re the best way to create a community and have a topical discussion.

For example, I might want to talk about PC gaming. Without group actors, I have to hope someone who follows me also likes PC gaming which, considering the demographics of people who tend to follow me, is not so likely.

I also like to write about aesthetic things. Which is also an interest of mine that isn’t generally mainstream enough for the Fediverse.

And music? People on #Mastodon don’t want to talk about that either.

So how to solve this problem?

By tagging a group actor on #Lemmy, #Piefed, or #NodeBB. Preferably, one that has to do with the topic you want to discuss. And believe me, this is more effective than hashtags.
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Chris Trottier

Here’s screenshots of all four photo-based #Piefed communities I’m running.

Now if these posts look familiar, that’s because I’m posting them from #Akkoma and #Pixelfed – and they’re submitted to Piefed by tagging the relevant communities.

This is what I mean when I say that people on #Lemmy are seeing something drastically different from what you’re seeing on #Mastodon.

Screenshot of !sizz@piefed.social
Screenshot of !lumoura@piefed.social
Screenshot of !dustbloom@piefed.social
Screenshot of !blue@piefed.social
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