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tl;dr — how do PieFed/Lemmy/Mbin handle cross-posting?

Currently, when a NodeBB admin moves a topic from the uncategorized pseudo-category into a local category, we federate out an as:Announce, people typically think of that as a "boost" or "share".

That worked fine when the entirety of the category list was your local categories plus the "uncategorized" pseudo-category. However, now that NodeBB is moving towards supporting remote categories (via group actors), this UX makes less sense. We wouldn't want to "move" a topic out of the category it is supposed to be in, just for visibility to other local users. Additionally, topic moving was limited to administrators, and from the get-go we knew it would eventually cause issues because people other than admins would want to share topics to other local users.

This is where the "cross-post" functionality comes in, which is entirely new to NodeBB. I don't think this is new to other AP-enabled threaded discussion software. The idea would be that if a new topic comes in, whether it's uncategorized or not, any user could "cross-post" that topic to a local category, where it would be visible to other users on that instance. On the ActivityPub side, we would then federate out an as:Announce as we already do.

Is this what PieFed/Lemmy/Mbin already do, if they support cross-posting? What other alternative solutions would there be to this problem?

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@shellsharks I crossposted you over to lemmy (lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37326743) but do consider pinging an #threadiverse comm like @fediverse as your first mention and your note will also be crossposted to that comm (with the first sentence becoming the article title). Then all the interactions from that comm will also appear as your mastodon comments.

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@BeAware I haven't had (almost) any such issues with #fediseer, but my primary audience has been #lemmy and the #threadiverse instead of microblogging. There's surprisingly different norms that have been organically reached in mastodon over the past decade which are fairly alien outside it.

It honestly feels more like a small group of people trying to futilely hold back the Eternal September through scolding and pile-ons.

There are many #Friendica fans, and for good reason. Once you get past the learning curve from the difficult UI, you get to appreciate the extra benefits of built-in #Bluesky, #Lemmy/#Piefed/#MBIN, #Tumblr, and #RSS feed integration. It also has #Diasporia integration and some other protocol integrations. Of course, it's also a #Mastodon alternative.

Nobody ever mentions Friendica as being a #Threadiverse app, but it has Groups, which is built-in Threadiverse capability. If you follow a Community on Lemmy/Piefed/MBIN, for example, it gets categorized as a group and is placed into a separate section for the groups you are part of. Then you can read and post in the Group (Community/Magazine) just like you would on a Threadiverse application. You can also create public and private groups.

And there is no need to use a Bluesky bridge if the Friendica instance you are on has the integration turned on.

Here's an excellent 5-minute video showing Friendica created by @earthman

#Fediverse

youtube.com/watch?v=QFGLRgnaeL

For anyone new (or "old") to the Fediverse that is interested in #infosec / #cybersecurity, we have a #Lemmy community (similar to Reddit) that you can join. You can join directly on infosec.pub or even directly interact with threads and replies from Mastodon / other fedi software!

Here is an example of a weekly "mentorship" thread we do on the c/cybersecurity community: https://infosec.pub/post/22645039

Infosec.pub is run by @jerry (of infosec.exchange) and as such is very stable and well-run. It is also a pretty active and lively instance with a wide variety of communities, both "technical" and not!

I wrote some stuff up on the #threadiverse (which originally meant platforms of the Fediverse that we're Reddit-esque) here if you're interested in reading - https://shellsharks.com/threadiversal-travel

Reddit doesn't deserve you, come to the Threadiverse!

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Mother fucking 2 year #lemmy cake day.

For me, lemmy was the actual start of the fediverse experience.

A reddit/forum style platform on the same protocol as Twitter style platforms that even kinda interacted with each other (first time seeing which was genuinely wonderful).

Since, I’ve always said the Fedi should do more group based things, and I stand by that. I even think Reddit/forum/group-based platforms are a better story on AP than microblogging and I’d wager they could stick around longer than the Twitter clones.

Either way, whenever I come back to the Fedi, I’m usually heading for lemmy / #threadiverse first. Reddit culture aside, I find it a much nicer way to find my people.

I hope all the best for the other platforms too… #kbin , #mbin , #piefed , #nodebb (and #friendica too)!

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@Carl Myrland The closest there is would be the Threadiverse: Lemmy, Mbin, PieFed. Technically all Reddit replacements. The latter two are probably even more appropriate because they've got somewhat better support for Fediverse software that isn't a Reddit clone.

You can join a Lemmy community, an Mbin magazine or a PieFed community with a Mastodon account by following it. Starting new threads is not "Mastodon 101" straight-forward because you have to take a few things into consideration (Mastodon has no real support for groups, that's why), but it's possible. And if you go over to Lemmy or Mbin or PieFed, all you see is groups, only groups and nothing but groups.

What you cannot do, however, is log onto a Lemmy, Mbin or PieFed instance with your Mastodon account and get your own personal, customisable feed. This is generally not how the Fediverse works. The only non-Mastodon place where you can "log in" with your Mastodon credentials and have a local user account automagically created with the self-same login credentials is Pixelfed.

Also, especially Lemmy is populated by 99% former Redditors. They haven't adopted Mastodon's culture just because they're in the Fediverse. Most of them barely know that Mastodon exists. Instead, Lemmy has Reddit's culture all over. Prepare for culture clashes with Mastodon users on the losing side because all mods are formerly from Reddit, too.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Threadiverse #Lemmy #Mbin #PieFed
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A lot of good stuff is happening in the fediverses!

privacy.thenexus.today/good-st

Including:

  • DAIR-tube, the PeerTube page of Dr. Timnit Gebru's's Distributed AI ResearchCenter
  • The Website League, an island network that's taking a very different approach
  • GoToSocial v 0.17, continuing their focus on safety and privacy with interaction controls.
  • Piefed and the #Threadiverse
  • Bonfire's new Mosaic service along with their work on Open Science Network and prosocial design
  • #Letterbook
  • #Bluesky and the ATmosphere's continued momentum

And that's not all! The last section of the article briefly touches on @kissane's work on revealing the fediverse's gifts, Weird and the Leaf protocol, @newsmast's Channel.org and the Patchwork fork, @Flipboard bringing @19thnews and hundreds of other publishers to the Fediverse, Bandwagon, a proof of concept integration of Faircamp into Hubzilla, Mastodon 4.3 ...

There really is a lot going on!

#fediverse @fediversenews